Next Gen testing picks up intensity on Day 2 🙌 | NASCAR
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- More cars on track than ever as Day 2 of the Next Gen test at Charlotte Motor Speedway nears an end for the day.
Next Gen testing picks up intensity on Day 2 🙌 | NASCAR
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Stenhouse trying to raise his body count before Daytona I see
Lmao
Wrecky Spinhouse
I thought the same thing!!
Why is that guy still racing???
Love the exhaust, but imagine how much better they would be with full power…
The history of the last thirty years proved the opposite
I love how everyone is giving so much hate to the car when it’s a TEST.People give some time,the car isn’t it’s going to be the best right after it launches.NASCAR still has three months to change the car.
Only hate is coming from Fans that know 0 about racing and drivers that know they are about to be exposed. Next year will be one of the craziest Nascar seasons ever. Only change I would make is more power. Got to have atleast 700 horsepower
@@wysmn Yeah It would be better if they were faster.
Pack racing on 1, 5 miles please.
Almost all the drivers have said its throttle to the floor racing. Keslowski even said last year... "its like playing a video game on rookie, you just put your foot down and go" lmao
I think people like the cars. I think people also just want more horsepower.
Some people really out here in the comments like “it sucks nascar is dead 💀” on a test in November
The racing sounds slower looks slower is actually much slower and they hold the pedal to the floor all the way around the track the racing is gonna suck at mile and a 1/2's
When lead changes increase that’s going to be boring?
Sound like the old cars when they were down a cylinder!
Cars looking fairly good so far. We will see how they are in a big pack.
And on a hot slick racetrack, I’m curious to see how much will change by the 600
There is 0 you can learn from watching these practices. Maybe you can see they are a bit slower, sound different and only have 1 lug per wheel. They aren’t racing. They are testing. Not much can be learned by watching.
The way they’re passing suggests there is something positive here.
NASCAR, we’re excited to see these cars don’t get me wrong. But nobody is excited for what we’re seeing right now. Which is basically the same thing we were trying to get away from with the Gen-6 car. It’s basically follow the leader and nobody passes anyone unless a mistake is made. Number moved up front are frowned upon by a great number of people, the lug nuts are the stupidest thing ever, you’re getting rid of any tradition that Daytona had that it wouldn’t surprise me if you ended up holding the duels somewhere else. Just for the love of god for once listen to what the drivers and the fans want. Cause it sounds like some of them are in the same boat as well
whining about a lug nut and stickers? my god, there's just no pleasing nascar fans. you could lay out everything you think you want, they could give you all that, and there'd still be something found to piss and moan about.
They don't care about the fans or drivers it's all about marketing and money. They are in for a rude awakening though because no fans = no sponsors
Nag, Nag, Nag, Nag
It's a test
Unicorn Venom, where is this the same as with the previous car?
Im just hoping that the superspeedway still rocks and they're light enough to make short stuff and road courses competitive.
As long as you can follow in 'dirty air' and without issues that high end racing like DTM, euro TC suffer we're gonna be fine.
Aero push is hard to get rid of. It’s a issue even Indy cars have
This, having a solid areo setup for racing will do more for the sport than stuff like Horsepower.
@@fedexracer1183 There is supposed to be more air going under the cars to get rid of aero push"
@@jerwatson79 NASCAR added diffusers to the aft of the fuel tank, Supposedly, this reduces the turbulence that affects a trailing car
FedEx Racer 11 when Indycar runs super downforce wings whether it’s on mile halfs or bigger there is no aeropush, only the draft being enormously powerful.
Let's do a two lap caution pace laps before the green flag and then we will see how tense the restarts is.
I wish they would do that at every race.
Everyone in these comments like to say what nascar needs. What you need to learn is that this is a test and what we see here will be nothing like the actual racing. Remember 550 when it was first introduced and how it was nothing like what we got?
Exactly
Agreed. However, the typical educated race fan has seen this movie before.
That is, NASCAR experimenting with a new design only to have it not live up to the hype.
@@patersonplankrd when have they done that before i fail to remember a time nascar failed to live up to the hype
@@RealLuxxRyder The car of tomorrow...
@@ssmith6991 not really cause the first cot race was a barn burner at Bristol and it followed with a finish for the ages at Martinsville
This looks a little concerning. If they are running full throttle and using momentum to pass it's not looking good. Hope this really isn't indicative of how they will race on mile and half next year. Looks spread out and they look very aero effected.
They're taking it easy, it's testing, not a race.
They look and sound slow to me. First thing that popped into my mind was "ARCA".
@@WynnofThule They are definitely not taking it easy lol. That isn't how testing works
Same old stuff. Can’t pass
@@andrewsurowiec80 I say "taking it easy" in relative terms, they're never gonna push or risk more in a test than in whatever scenario they're simulating for
Can't wait to see them at Daytona and Talladega.
I can't wait to see these next Gen cars on a road course
I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU BUDDY
@@gagesstuff5946 what kind of news
@@qcoolbra25 they’ve been on road courses already
@@gagesstuff5946 He means in an actual race not testing
They look like they need about 200 more horse power. They look slow hell.
thats because of the camera dummy more zoomed in it is slower it looks plus higher quality slows it down
@@chady1229 no that is because they are actually slower dummy
@@chady1229 they were 1+ seconds slower than this year at Charlotte and they had no technical inspection
Ignore that. They don’t need to be 180 mph
1.5 inches less spoiler. 100 more HP. Softer tire compound @NASCAR. Please and thank you.
You’re flat wrong Dylan Buckley. No more horsepower. Use the draft. Focus engineering solely on sucking up and passing in the draft
@@STP43FAN1 praying this is sarcasm
Dylan Buckley you have no damned clue.
Man next years racing is gonna suck
i dont understand putting the numbers up front... they say for more sponsor coverage but there was plenty of space on the car to fit more without changing the entire look of the wraps
With the impending economic collapse and nascar fading in popularity there’s going to be plenty of room for sponsors. NASCAR shrunk by well over 50% after 2008. Back then 1 sponsor would sponsor the team all year. Now they have sponsors for like six races, so it takes multiple to run a season.
@@tuck1726 Nascar is actually trending up in growth over the last three years
@Azer_TM i see all of your points. They are noted. It still doesnt change the fact that it fundamentally takes away from the look of an ACTUAL nascar. Even more than the entire gen 7 car.
I have been a fan since 95 and this is the onky change thats ever really bothered me
I'm loving the look of the cars
They’re going a lot faster than they were yesterday.. if they fix the number on the side I’ll be ok with the car
I saw elsewhere mentioned in passing that a problem during the test was the cars bogging down in the corners. Anyone have any analysis of that here?
the cars are ok but the number placement.. is killing me
It bothers most of us. I mean just look at the comments. But Nascar doesn't care what their fans say so looks like they're stuck there for awhile
I'm sorry, but until we bring more horsepower back into NASCAR, this pedal to the floor racing will continue to be boring.
Even when passing escalates? We’ve forever seen more net incidence of passing on under powered over gripped racing than in high horsepower low downforce racing.
@@STP43FAN1 when guys like Jimmie Johnson and Carl Edwards are leaving the sport because they dislike the low horsepower packages, you have a problem. How many solid tracks have gotten cut now because of the package? It's a problem
What problem? Jimmie Johnson and Carl Edwards’ opinion is not based on any objectivity. Tracks that have lost dates because of restricted horsepower? That train of thought is fiction. Racing is not about horsepower. It’s about repassing. 60 lead changes in 500 miles is what matters, not horsepower
@@STP43FAN1 it's about skill gaps, not passing. Guys wouldn't even hit the apron at Phoenix because they were afraid the skirt damage would make passing impossible because passing was more about aero than driver skill.
I think those drivers know more than you, but maybe I'm wrong.
Passing has forever been about the draft and forward bite. The skill argument is fiction because there’s no skill gap, just a ferocity gap. Racing is about repassing, not working the throttle
Wide open throttle = GARBAGE.
Those side car numbers look stupid where they are.... change it back!!
It’s not about you or what you want it’s what the sponsors want if you want the numbers where you want it go sponsor a driver.
@@bigrooster6893 Watch it go short lived like the rear wing during C.O.T days.
@@bigrooster6893 I am a sponsor, and I want it changed back. It looks, well... kinda' like you... weird.
@@purpracer you’re a buffoon not a sponsor you’re a old fart stuck in the past.
ok so other than Elliott not liking the way the car was steering, I didn't see much intensity, just saying.
The dicing for first in this session indicates more intensity.
Imagine not watching anymore over a stupid lug nut and the number placement. 🤦🏻♂️
NASCAR is exiting 150 ona straightaway isn’t.
I can imagine not watching, no problem!
I hate the side numbers. You cant see them. They are too small and blend in with the sponsor decal. I think the racing will be the same if not worse. Less racing and more blocking coming our way.
What NASCAR needs to do is force the teams to run the same setup on these testing days. I wanna see how the cars RACE. Show me how they RACE. Set up a fun testing race, tell them to take it easy.
This isn’t for the fans. The whole point of this is for teams to try stuff out and TEST. That whole idea would defeat the purpose of even having the cars on track.
@@glizzygobbler420 It really wouldn't.
It would show you how the car races baseline. Having open setups is great and all and hopefully, if NASCAR isn't stupid, this isn't their only test before the season starts. I would test the racing quality. They never do that. That's why you see the results you do imo.
That doesn't make any sense. Teams have different spring rates. Gear ratios. Ride heights. Camber and toe. What do you wanna see?
It not that much fun when they don't have a flag and money at the end of the day.
Seems the Chevy gang can run the lines better behind cars. Aero push is not nearly as bad for them as the fords who were together earlier
Scrap it. No off throttle time. We don't want every race to be a superspeedway race
Oh yes we do. We want 60 lead changes to become a norm again.
Glad to see them running faster than in previous tests I’ve seen. They look good here, fast. Looking forward to Daytona.
Why would they use the worst package in Nascar on a track that is super fast get rid of the 550hp altogether because it feel like Texas with limited passing
Texas didn’t have limited passing.
And they need the 900hp package. My mustang has more the 550hp.... Nascar blows it once again
No. 500 is enough.
You could say I live under a rock when it comes to nascar...if I catch a big race and I'm not doing anything ill watch, but other than that I know not much.. what did I miss? Just found some of these next Gen nascar videos... what happened they redesign all the cars from scratch or something?
Wow. Look at the damn run these guys are getting off of 2! Carries u all the way down the backstretch can make a pass or 2, and all the way into turn 3.
Also if you go thru the middle of 1 and 2, u have just lost all ur momentum and are probably getting passed.
They didn't show in the final lap times, but for some reason the Hendrick cars looked fast. Idk why. Also are those like windows 98 loading noises in the background?
They also remind me of the old goody dash series cars 😂
This package sucks. Let them try the short track package. Whats the worse that can happen?
If they want 1.5 mile tracks to be wide open pack races, so be it. 1.5 mile tracks suck regardless. However, they need to run just 4 of them a year like the super speedways. We could have 4 Super Speedway Races(Daytona, Talledega), 4 1.5 mile races(Homestead,Atlanta, Vegas, Kentucky), 4 1 mile races(Milwaukee, Dover, New Hampshire), 4 road races(COTA, glen, Sonoma, Roval), 7 misc races(gateway, Nashville SS, pocono, Indy, rockingham, Iowa) 3-4 dirt(Knoxville, Bristol, eldora) and 10 short track races(Bristol, Martinsville, Nashville fairgrounds, Richmond, Phoenix, new Autoclub, North Wilksboro)
Package does suck but if they have 20+ 1.5-2 mile tracks on schedule NASCAR will continue to die. They could make cars affordable for privateers like latemodel racing, and they would have 200 cars showing up for a $500,000 purse. Also, they could tailor the rules package(especially for short tracks) to where you don’t have to pay a team of engineers to set it up. That would be real stock car racing. This is just corporate billboards running around the track.
Has anyone else noticed a small white light that shines on the ground just behind the left rear tire? I saw it while casting this to my TV.... anyone know what it is?
Like the old goody dash series cars 😂
They need to get rid of "Horsepower Packages"... Play with Downforce and everything else, but stop restricting the engines
Yeah, let's have 470hp at the short tracks!
yeah this doesn't seem like a good idea anymore
By the looks of this footage.. races are gonna be boring. Single file and no side by side...
It’s only a test, they’re not trying to full on race, let’s all have a little patience with tests
Still looks the same can’t pass lose the noise get rid of this 550 package and giant ass spoilers
At least give these cars 600 hp at these tracks
50 more hp you would still see exactly what you see now just a tad faster. 1in or 2 off spoiler with a tire that has fall off you would see more out of it. Also Nascar can't allow these guys to seal the cars off to the ground we need air under the car.
Considering these cars ran $900 horsepower less than 5 years ago this is an absolute disgrace to even be talking about 600 horsepower. That is entry level for what Nascar is really made of SMH this s*** has become a joke and there's nothing about what people paid for
The next gen race cars looking good for 2022. These next gen looks similiar with Jackson Storm's next gen high-tech racers.
It not a kids movie it’s real life racing’s hole scheme is exiting and single file isn’t. Bump up the horsepower and make it wear they have to let off.
seems the cars hold the bottom better than they did yesterday. a couple drivers had a hard time staying anywhere near the bottom of 3-4.
Look3ed like actually the draft was prettyt strong certain point cars would get a good slingshot past each other
Indeed and amazingly a lot of respondents here act as if it wasn’t happening
The new number placement is bad. They do not look like American Stock cars with the numbers placed where they are.
Your right I think they look better more modern
I think the new number placement is great. Makes the cars look like they've caught up to the 21st century instead of being stuck in the '60s. But to each their own.
The 43 car has good speed vs HMS. Great job rpm
It's testing the Hendrick cars was in a learning mode the 43 will still be slow come 2022.
It's just a test though hms will have more speed than richard petty motorsports
If they are going lower the horsepower then they have to reduce the down force so drivers can't go flat out around the track. Take away the spoilers and increase the ground clearance... done deal.
Won’t teams just Do what they did In 2007 and lower the front of the cars themselves?
@@anamarte9859 I think NASCAR dicates shock absorber minimum and maximum compression settings and that way they can keep the ground clearance height standardized. If a car is sitting too low it will be easy to see on video and they will penalize them. I could be wrong but i am sure they can figure out a way to regulate it. I don't think anyone wants to see momentum racing at all the ovals also it will get expensive as they will have big wrecks like Daytona and Talladega every other week.
Yes we want to see draft pack racing because it is superior competition. Working the throttle only means the car is screwed up, it’s NOT any competitive virtue. Real racing is you keep repassing everyone until the checkered flag
Less horse power should be less spoiler. Cut that sumbitch in half. 3.5 to 4.5 is all they need. Make em drive the cars, not wide open. Hope they fix it. Cause itd be embarrassing to see the xfinity run faster lap times.
“I would say the difficulty level by yourself is way, way harder than the previous the car. The previous car you could drive it really, really hard - especially here and (Auto Club Speedway) - and get sideways all day and not spin it out.”
-Alex Bowman
They're already driving em a hell of alot more than in Gen 6.
THat's already a certainty.
"...he's chosen the John Deere line through the infield."...
can we please get 4k please! is 2021 not 2001
Good luck. Even today in 2021 there is very few live shows that air in 4k. Only a few sports games are shown in 4k weekly and that's about it.
DITCH the huge spoiler on the back, then we see who can truly drive
No. Racing is about repassing, not throttle control. Get rid of the frintrunning phonies and instead bunch them up to where there’s no choice but to go for the lead now and keep repassing.
From now on instead of getting doored it’s gonna be “he got sponsored getting into 1”
NNC 2007 package was good for mile 1/2s. actually had to play with the throttle more
Actually it wasn’t. Playing with the throttle means the car is screwed up
NASCAR I hope you’re looking at these comments! These cars need more terminal velocity at the end of the straightaway so they have to be driven. Please give them more power or less spoiler (both would be nice). If you want the drivers to help sell this for you and to be excited about this new car, this is not the formula. Trying to create Talladega / Daytona type pack racing on a 1.5 mile track is crazy. I love this sport but I think NASCAR has lost its mind.
You are a fool. Real racing is packed up drafting combat. Adding horsepower never improves passing.
Will the 18" make any difference on wear or tire temp?
I guess next year they going electric blahaha
I don't see much intensity...
The number move is ridiculous. Its a sports car. It's an IMSA GTD. I like those cars when I'm watching IMSA!
900 HP with a 2" spoiler. Fast on the straights and slow in the turns. CAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIFT!!!!
Lifting never will be real racing. Open throttle slam draft combat is real racing.
There are several issues with the car that at least NASCAR is accepting feedback from the drivers.
FIrst, the heat . Temps have been measured near 150 degrees...Also, there are issues with the safety of the drivers in chrashes.
I think there is a lot of work to be done.
I hope #6 bad Brad wins some races this season!!!
Nice going NASCAR...No telemetry.
Looks like next season is going to suck.
Wanted to see if you could tell the makers apart without squinting my eyes anymore. Nope, they still look nothing like the real cars, and identical from the side. Whenever they start racing cars that actually resemble stock cars, then I may start watching again.
I wish they would go back to a similar aero package like early 2000s seems like there was way better racing then now I used to be real heavy into it but know I'm getting kind of bored with it
No. Early 2000s away from the “plate” tracks was not as competitive as what is happening here. Charlottes the 1995 and 1998 600s and 2000 500, Atlanta 1999-2002 were an apex
I like the way the next gen car looks...It looks more aggressive
They finally resemble your actual street car!
These cars are looking pathetically slow on the straights.
It’s a test they’re probably just seeing how the car works so they can change it when it comes to the race season.
Just give it some time.
31.6s LMFAOOOO
30.7 actually
The focus sees to be on the 9 car on surprise.
These tests should have been also done during the summer in the heat of the day and at night at tracks were those races would be held at during race times. All this does during fall in the morning hours, when races are not held, is seeing how fast the cars are. I see no real useful data which can be applied to races when they're not run.
I do not like the forward numbers!!
What’s with all the people complaining? It’s a damn test NOT a race. Clearly people who have never been in racing. This is like saying drivers should go balls to the wall during hot laps at the local dirt track, ain’t gonna happen unless they’re an idiot. Also racing is about leading and not passing. I get sick of hearing people gripe that there’s no passing. That might be because a race car driver doesn’t want people passing them? 🤔
The new 1 car seems faster
We're Kyle Busch
KB will be at a future test. A reporter mentioned it on twitter yesterday.
Need to go get rid of the big spoiler and go back to the stockier bodies like in the early 2000s. The fact that the drivers can run an intermediate track wide open is ridiculous.
No it isn’t. They should be running these tracks wide open. Wide open is what these teams are looking for
Cars look good and sound okay. Still need 300 more horsepower. Nobody wants wide open trottle cars making barely more horsepower than my pickup truck.
We don’t need horsepower we need more repassing
Them numbers up there on the front don't look good makes them harder to see and makes the car look strange
NASCAR... I want OPEN power back
I'm crazy driver how can i join Nascar
For low Hrspwr , that looked fast. Sub 29 sec. Maybe 🤔👍
I timed two laps of Chase Elliot with the stop watch on my phone.
Elliott laps were in the 31. 4 second range.
THat works out to roughly 172 mph
This will end up killing Nascar. The same if F1 said 600 he max but I don't care about Nascar anymore its been a shit show for the last 10 years. Maybe put the stock back into stock car racing.
Pack racing please
The cars sound like crap. They sound like late models
I could hold it wide open too, there's absolutely zero skill being show cased unlike years past when they were pushing 215+ going into the turns and track records were being demolished
Yeah, no you couldn't lol. Also this is a test, not a race. Get over yourself lol.
“I would say the difficulty level by yourself is way, way harder than the previous the car. The previous car you could drive it really, really hard - especially here and (Auto Club Speedway) - and get sideways all day and not spin it out.”
-Alex Bowman
faster doesnt mean better racing nascar will probably add 100 horsepower in the coming year or season after safety is figured out they want them slower intentionally now
NASCAR engineers and some drivers insist the racing is more competitive with slower cars.
Quite frankly, I'm not seeing much difference between the old engine package and this one.
@@WynnofThule IN the video for which I posted above( see link) Austin Dillon pretty much said the same thing.
Wow a thrill a minute ...not
not impressed with speed on the straights.
NASCAR Take tapered spacer off NOW ...
offset numbers don't look good at all...throws off the whole balanced look of the car.
The numbers look so bad
Let them put a car number wherever they want. It has lost the reason its even there. I don’t need a number on the car at all.
Unsponsored cars are going to look really awkward now.
Why is pack racing so important when it causes so many wrecks ? Bolt doesn't win in a pack, he outruns the competition...right?
Wrong. Pack racing requires far more competitive fight than being just another front running fraud. Winning because you had to repass everyone a thousand times in the race is a real competitive accomplishment. Front running is boring and thus not an accomplishment
@@STP43FAN1 It's the only form of racing to do that. Imagine the 100 meters running in a pack until the very last second, really bad
Derrick Harris, Indycar has a history of draft pack racing and it was by far the most competitive in the history of that genre of racing. The Indianapolis 500 2012-17 ran super downforce and the lead changed some 250-plus times in those six races. That is the zenith of the 500 in competitiveness. The MAVTV 500 at Fontana in 2015 set the Indycar record for lead changes at 80.
That is supposed to be a norm, NOT an exception
Looks the same old racing who ever is out front can stay out front but once again nascar trying there best to screw racing up even more with this car
Yaaaaawn.
Numbers look stupid.
I think they are ugly and the numbers foward look stupid And it’s just not the same as it used to be.. just like joe Gibbs guy said, they are now ordering all the same parts and using all the same parts as each other
Single lugnut is for indy car and F1. Nascar just keeps running its self into the ground.
I wonder if these cars will actually be able to pass one another???
If there isn't more passing, especially for the lead, its not going to be good for NASCAR viewership
You’re not noticing the dicing through this test?